Diamond Sutra – Buddha beyond form and appearance

Diamond Sutra – Buddha beyond form and appearance – 金刚经 – 不可以身相得见如来

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Derek
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Can the Buddha be seen?  Can enlightened beings been recognized by certain appearance or form?

Although there are certain descriptions of how Buddha or Bodhisattva may look, ultimately the reality and awareness of the Buddha, like the nature of the Tao depicted in Daodejing, are beyond form and descriptions.  Therefore, real Buddha is beyond form and appearance.

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如理实见分第五

GENUINE DISCERNMENT OF THE PRINCIPLE OF SUCHNESS, FIVE

须菩提！于意云何？可以身相见如来不？
“Subhuti, what do you think? Can the Tathagata be seen by means of His bodily form?”

不也，世尊！不可以身相得见如来。
“No, World Honoured One, the Tathgate cannot be seen by means of His bodily form.

何以故？
“Why?

如来所说身相，即非身相。
“Because when the Tathagata speaks of bodily form, it is not (real) form.”

佛告须菩提：凡所有相，皆是虚妄。若见诸相非相，则见如来。
The Buddha said to Subhuti: “Everything with form is unreal; if all forms are seen as unreal, the Tathagata will be perceived.”佛能被看到吗？开悟的人可以被一定的外观或形式确认吗？

虽然佛菩萨能有一定的形相，但最终佛菩萨的境界和意识，像道德经里对道的描述，是超越所有形式和描述的。 因此，真正的佛是不可以身相得见的。

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如理实见分第五

须菩提！于意云何？可以身相见如来不？

不也，世尊！不可以身相得见如来。

何以故？

如来所说身相，即非身相。

佛告须菩提：凡所有相，皆是虚妄。若见诸相非相，则见如来。

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2 responses to “Diamond Sutra – Buddha beyond form and appearance – 金刚经 – 不可以身相得见如来”

  1. 妮姬 Avatar
    妮姬

    Is there a reason that a student should concern themselves whether they are in the physical presence of a Buddha (or Bodhisattva) or not?

    Is a Buddha (or Bodhisattva) also merely a vessel or means by which teachings are transmitted, i.e. is it not true that it is the teachings, not the means by which they are received, that is important?

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    1. Derek Avatar
      Derek

      For the first question, the ability to discern authenticity of a presence will increase alongside with one’s growth and development. A famous Chinese Zen master recommends seeing people around as Buddhas and Bodhisattva, and seeing oneself as an ordinary person, which leads to humility and reverence to all. This recommendation is in line with Confucius teaching – there are teachers everywhere. From this perspective, whether the teachers are indeed Buddha/Bodhisattva becomes less relevant.

      For the second question, yes, this is a good way to look at Buddha and Bodhisattva.

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